It's a subscription service that includes two free games every month as part of the deal. While you have no choice as to which games you'll receive it's determined by whatever region your machine is set to , on the those games were yours forever. On the One, as soon as you cancel your Live subscription, you'll lose access to your games. Sure, you could argue that you haven't really bought those games, since they came "free" with a paying subscription.
But you still paid a Live subscription, those games were one of the things you got in return, and as soon as you stop your subscription, those games are taken away. Steam as a corporation, will eventually leave you with nothing. You have only bought access to it with their conditions and when they want you to have it. After purchases with steam I learned my lesson. I turned in a guy who created a forum collecting donations for a copy of his pirated game distributor is out of business now. Steam actually sells this game is what is so clueless.
In response the guy bans me the report goes to the guy-forum leader and NOT STEAM and steam does nothing to control the retribution I received for a legit piracy report. Steam enable piracy. Steam cares nothing for legit customers. If you expect to have any common sense or reasonable decision from a Steam representative or arbitrator, your clueless.
They lost my confidence that they could functional make rational decisions regarding access to the material I purchased through them. I don't buy steam. They are dishonest is what I walked away from in my experience with a simple "report" they encouraged in their guidelines. Its all just words to them. They don't mean them.
They don't even attempt to follow what they "say" they do. There is dumb but then well below that level is this comment. Some people really would if told jump of a cliff go ahead and blindly do it.
It is you who has to open your eyes so do not talk about dumb If stupid was painful you'd be on permanent morphine drip. Well why did you think you were able to purchase most of those games at such a bargain price? It's because you don't physically own the game. I think steam is a great service, but it needs one very critical thing in its terms of service. And that would be to state that, if they were to go out of business, or get bought by another company, or have any business situation change that would cause termination of the service, that they are required to unlock your library for you, and then you own it at that point instead of just leasing.
I hate the fact that the software industry as a whole is moving toward leases and subscriptions, but I'm not sure what we can do about it, except let the free market prevail and support competition that doesn't do this. Steam is sh8ty service as mentioned so many times already. There is a whole lot we can do - DON'T buy their products and see how long they last. You are not leasing you own those copies and the right to the use of said copies till you decide you have had enough of playing them.
Here in the UK a company can write what ever it wants in it's TOS but unless it is fair it is un-enforceable in law ie not worth the paper it is written on. I make very clear payment is due in the form of a free download ie a pirated copy of one of their latest games in an email. Just forgot to add that you cannot play those boxed games if they require steam even if you "blackmail" them and they supply you new code.
So, you're still buggered as you are still forced on steam. That is why here in west london there are quite few people that buy a single game among them and then share steam account and all play the same game. And stupidity of the system is actually contributing to loss of sales. Yes I understand but it is the first step in the right direction even steam are breaking the ECJ ruling re the resale of digital downloaded games they try and say you are not buying a copy but the ruling that came down says otherwise and if steam or any software company wish to trade in the EU they have to observe the laws.
Once a piece of software is sold by the author even if that sale is for FREE they exhaust their rights and may not impede the rights of any lawful owner be that the second owner who buys it from the original purchaser or the tenth owner. The lawful owner must be able to run the software as intended which in the case of a game means play it fully albeit if your system is capable of playing it.
Any company be it Sega EA Codemasters or Valve via Steam may not by law impede that use doing so is a clear infringement of rights and is by definition criminal as they are breaking the law. If we stand up for our rights as I do and enough of us do it we will force a change and then we can start working with these company's to make the PC gaming community stronger more vibrant and hopefully increase sales for these company's.
But the first move to observe the ECJ ruling as in the Oracle v Usersoft ruling has to come from the company's as it is them wishing to trade in the EU they are not forced to trade here. Steam could face serious penal charges and compensation costs. I have not signed up for steam. I was leery about the company anyway. I just do not feel putting my gaming experience in another entity's hands makes me all that comfortable.
I appreciate the posters response to steams changed terms of agreement. I will take heed and avoid steam altogether as well. I wish I could buy new titles like the good old days Unfortunately, there are games on retail sale that one is not aware require steam until after purchase mail order, Amazon etc. That is how I fell for it. Worse still, I only play single player campaigns given up on multiplayer after couple of tries and tantrums of demented 10 year olds?
Steam is slowly doing a good job of removing itself from the industry. Instead of being picky, and only allowing very good, top-quality, AAA titles Every time I open up Steam these days I feel like I'm staring t the bargain software shelves at Walmart They have "not interested" flags, but their preference algorithm doesn't bother learning from games you flag as "not interested" in, so you keep getting the same bottom-feeder, puppy-milled garbage shoved in your face.
I've told Steam I'm not interested in Ero-Manga dating novels tons of times.. This is what's killing Steam. They are catering to developers They cater to anyone that will shove anything onto the Steam Store that could possibly make Steam a buck by suckering some poor soul into buying it. Games that are broken or no longer work are allowed to stay on the store just on the off-chance someone buys it and finds out the hard way the game no longer works.
Valve doesnt' care. They got paid, so whatever you're stuck with doesn't matter to them anymore. Finding a game on Steam has also turned into the equivilent of digging through the bargain bin at Best Buy circa There is no way for you to proactively filter out game genres you don't want from the start to keep from getting slapped in your face every day by new ones coming out Actively digging for a game lets you pick tags or search criteria, but since the store has been flooded with puppy-milled, bottom-feeder, bleed-a-dollar games it's impossible to really find anything worthwhile.
The review system lets developers create accounts and fluff up their scores. Old, busted games are left in the store. Every day a new, massive wave of slop is thrown in the trough. They don't want to make it where potential customers can hide aspects of the store, because they just want everything throw in your face like you're on the Vegas strip with angry street hustlers antagonizing you into a purchase. So, you feel insulted when you open the steam store, hustled by all the garbage in it, and victimized when you do finally buy something.
At this point, deleting someone's account is probably the nicest thing they could do. It would be like telling someone they are no longer allowed at a flea market. Now you have to go to a much nicer store to do your shopping. Valve has decided that quantity is more profitable then quality. In the short-run, yes, it is. But, int he long run, they have gotten a reputation for having horrible selectioin and bloated libraries of garbage.
This is a death knell in the long run.
People get tired of wading through the flea market staring at dime-store junk. But, this underlines Steam's philosophy. You are not a customer. They don't want to make it easy for you to avoid it. This is what happens when a company puts the needs of its suppliers ahead of the needs of its customers. If Valve had any cajones left, they'd shut down Greelight, Early Access, and stop allowign Free-to-Play and other garbage on their site.
Try to salvage some shred of dignity before your die, Valve. Because you're dying Not everyone just wants the latest Battlefield of Duty: Sims 2k Why would I want only AAA titles? The benefit of steam is that I have all my games in an easy list.
I don't want Steam to pick the few games I can play, that defies the purpose of steam. Item 1: When I purchase something, whether it be milk, a car, a book or a video game, I own it, and that ownership is non-negotiable, assuming my ownership of such said item does not bring harm to society or fall into the rare case of imminent domain.
Item 2: When I sign a contract or terms of service agreement, those rule are lasting and binding; they may not be changed without my a notification AND b consent; if either of those two conditions are not met, then the original contractual terms hold. Now, if item 1 and item 2 are violated, such as steam taking away software I have paid for because I wish to continue doing business based upon the original terms of service, then I absolutely consider it a theft. If you disagree, consider this extrapolation of the contractual 'bait and switch' routine. You take a 3 year auto loan from the bank you do business with.
You make all your payments on time, and in full. But one day your lender decides to unilaterally change the terms of your loan, specifying that you must forfeit your car if you ever decide to sue or close your account with said lender. If you object, you will be found in violation of the new terms of agreement and your lender will repossess your vehicle. I know lobbyist have been able to buy politicians and make this corrupt practice legal, but it is morally wrong and I for one refuse to participate. I have already left USBank, Farmer's Insurance and Raymond James for such 'bait and switch' contractual agreements; Steam will be treated no different.
Those 2 arent linked, and it could never happen that when windows crashes, you also lose your steam account. First class nonsense. Because you bought stuff without thinking? And now years later you dont blame your purchase habbits to yourself, but to steam? Its Steams fault that you have a hole in your wallet??? Yeah ofcourse And i want my playboy subscribtion to be transferred to christianitytoday Stupid people Not to make money, but to annoy people.
All those words and yet no thought into one single one of them. If you buy a game you buy the right to use it as you see fit you can burn the disc you can put it in the bin the publisher can do nothing about you doing either but you think they can stop you re-selling your lawful right to use it. We do not rent or lease from steam we buy with a one off payment. You can as long as you acknowledge the interlectual rights of the publisher to be identified as the said publisher do what you want you can add a MOD pack just look at APOE for examples of the game being seriously modded by third party developers but still retaining the interlectual rights of Microsoft as the publisher.
You have a lawful right to resell just as you can transfer your playboy subscription to someone else be that person a friend who gives you money for it or not. Steam want to brainwash you into thinking you do not have rights but a quick search online will soon show that you do. I always thought of Steam as an infinite gaming platform, that has a variety of genres. But I did purchase a lot of games not all through Steam , and the point is that as time goes by, I keep regretting my choices of even buying those games. I wish that I could have all of my money back or at least the refund system would've been "installed" earlier".
I do not know what to do. It wouldn't be reasonable to leave, but as I read, I think that I might do it. Since I feel like those favorite titles right? My computer hard drive crashed and when I bought a new computer windows 10 I was unable to recover my account. I went thru their recovery system and was never able to get the account back.
I will never buy another game that requires steam. Yeah, this happens only on the side of the final consumers who have no financial backup to contest draconian laws and have to subject themselves to this type of shit pushed down their throats by crappy, low level scumbag, non moral, abusive companies that do that all the time. Now, check on the corporate side: It's only when the customer base is so wide and fragmented that they can "afford" to no care and say "meh..
Steam just crashed on me, and steam suggested I re download it again, and I lost all my previously downloaded games, and what do they care? I spent good money for games online only to be unplayable, and the only usable game such as Half Life 2 was the downloadable versions that you buy directly from STEAM! It's about money, money, money, and control of nearly all online games. Steam is about it's own interest not about the customers, or users. Money, and control! Steam uses a management-free management structure, and lots of volunteer moderators. The result is that if you use forums for games you purchase on Steam to seek support, you will be belittled, insulted, harassed, stalked across other forums and in your reviews, and the moderation team will help that happen.
It is not possible to transfer your game licenses off of Steam. As a result, should you lose access to your account or even just wish to cease being their customer, you can't. You're handcuffed to them, and there is nothing you can do about it. Valve's upper management has absolutely no concerns regarding the user experience or complaints. I actually have come to believe that Valve stopped making games because they prefer to psychologically torment the users who are foolish enough to use their "communities". Steam's support is almost nonexistent. I have read of people who had their accounts hacked and were required to provide a CD key from a physical sale made almost two decades ago for assistance.
It is possible to spend thousands of dollars on Steam and get banned, thus simply losing your money and your game licenses forever, with no recourse whatsoever. That amounts to theft, and they get away with it. Steam has become an experiment in draconian commerce. It's too big, and there are too few alternatives.
But the worst thing about it is that using Steam can actually ruin your experience of the games themselves, and Valve cares not one little bit about that. Developers and publishers face the consequences for their incompetence. I believe that Valve changed their license agreement so they could abuse their users with impunity.
I believe that they think themselves untouchable, and do not in the least fear that their users will go elsewhere. I believe that because so many people have thousands of dollars worth of titled built up on their accounts, Valve thinks that will keep them from leaving. And I believe their sales are the hook to build that perception. Look at your Steam library. How many of those games do you actually play?
How many have you completed? How many have sat there collecting digital dust for years? Do you really need Steam? This is the very same reason I never buy from steam either! The only reason I own two games from steam, Is because I got them for free with a video card I bought. There should be nothing legal about screwing someone over and then claiming they can't take action simply because they made them sign something.
Laws in America are becoming so fascist! And most of these laws are invalid and illegal! And yet they are still sometimes illegally enforced! It really amazes me that people are so socially engineered that they ignore serious matters such as this! And continue to support these corporations! And they are pretty much just anti-consumer!
And anti-free market. And yet people still give them money! How are people so stupid not to realize that these are scumbag companies! If a judge and court had any integrity they would find a dirty agreement like that invalid anyway. And allow the suit. Because regardless you can still sue them no matter if you sign something like that or not! Just the same as you can indict a ham sandwich. I am unhappy at the fact that Steam forces me to use a credit card to buy games.
I'm not willing to make my friend on steam pay because he doesn't have enough money! It is unacceptable to make gamers pay credit card only. Why not let us send money! How does Valve have the right to not add any other payment methods other than credit and debit cards? You can pay with Paypal, and paypal has means to top up money without a credit card. So maybe do some research before you complain. And there's also Steam Gift Cards. Those can be bought in many shops around the world, and work pretty much like similar cards for other services e.
You can buy them in physical shops, with physical cash, no credit card required. Personally, I have no need for them, but it's nice that they exist so that kids can buy the games they want with their allowance without having to get their parents to link their credit cards to their accounts or to separate accounts and buy everything as a gift. I hate this "exclusivity" thing.
It requires you to buy console to play some of the best games, for no reason. It requires you to buy and install Windows if you are Linux gamer, for no reason. It requires you to get Steam account and accept it - even game is single-player, for no reason. Because I appreciate it, I have to have license - but its only available on Steam. So I bought Steam licenses, added the game keys. And I am not touching it.
I play DRM-free copies instead? Pirated - nope, I have the license. All of my other games are from GOG, I have also bought licenses to almost all of games I played in my childhood, which were not available legally in my country, the USSR. So if you purchased a title, you have also purchased right to run it.
So you can get it from anywhere, so long you use it according to the license. From any source. I don't think one is obligated to get the data ONLY from the source of license purchase or limited to run binaries provided only from the source of license purchase. But if Fallout would be available from GOG, I would purchase it from them instead - and spare all the troubles. Sad but true The steam community has vast amounts of games and is dubiously known as a popular gamers platform but i feel I am straying away from it because they are pulling away gamers giving them the idea that they no longer care about customers.
Makes me wonder where steam will be in a few years from now Will they still even be in business or will they just be another capitalist monetized company looking for more monetized methods? Or will they start caring about customers?
This is one of the reasons I had to torrent copies of most of my steam games. Its sad to see steam acting this way. They collect data that can and probably will be compromised somewhere along the way.
We have so few rights these days against the game juggernauts, I refuse to participate. I won't purchase through steam. I was an avid "off the shelf" gamer but the industry has gone crazy with greed. Overcharging and under servicing and then wondering why so many people pirate. I have purchased games online in the past only to download hacked versions of the same games so I didn't have to log into my steam account to use them.
It's ridiculous. I want to purchase a game, install a game, play a game and not have to depend on another service to continue using them or possibly not allow me to use them in the future. This is a way of the past and so is my gaming. Forcing a T. Take Our Shit contracts aren't there to provide you a better service.
They are only there to protect their own bottom line or legally stick it to you. I would disagree with you. One can easily find a legal digital copy online, to very acceptable price. Much lower than its used to be. One also gets it instantly, sparing all the CDs and scratch issues. The TOS were available before. Greed, greed never changes. I will not be buying any more games on steam either. But for a different reason. Steam has had my support over the years because i am a huge half life fan. I bought half life 2 when it came out and was the only game available on steam.
I have bought everything there is to do with half life. Even left 4 dead. Where is our episode 3. They have not even given a hint of anything. Not even said a peep. It has been longer since episode 2 than it has been from half life 1 to half life 2. It is my impression that they are not concerned with half life any more and have gotten nice and fat off steam. They have more than enough resources. More than enough money. They just have decided not to. So the next game i buy on steam might be half life 3 but dont care if i play cracked version or not.
How about if someone started a lawsuit and had their legal expenses "crowd funded"? Wouldn't that bypass the class action definition? Don't let on to Steam or they'll come up with a new term of service specifically relating to denying anyone the ability to have their lawsuit crowd funded. I always thought I am the only one who hates Steam for what they do. Sadly, as evidenced several times in local JRC think GameStop, if you're american , the amount of non-Steam games is really going down. I've been having problems with Steam for a long time now, ranging from trivial their.
I was also at one point really worried that my collection is gone, after logging in to Steam service and seeing only one game the one I had installed at that moment.
Luckily, it was only temporary and restored a day later, but I fully understand the guy whose "kill switch" got triggered and he had his library wiped. For many people, videogames are the only - or almost only - outlet for frustration in today's world, so losing them all so suddenly can be a major shock. No worries, I use steam because it's easier than pirating. If they ever change that, game developers will stop getting my money, and the torrents will rise again.
Make it easy, make it reasonable, or perish like the rest of the dinosaurs. I'm going to enjoy the product either way. Losing my account means a few days redownloading from someone that doesn't bother paying the developers for their work, so no big deal to me.
If you loose your account, then you can't just redownload from someone. You need to re-purchase the licenses. So from what I see, most have no issues purchasing the licenses. They have issues with using the product, because integrated non-optional license check system DRM interferes with product itself. And there is also a risk to loosing all of the licenses, if user breaks account license, because they are connected with the account.
This is something very very very wrong. Licenses to products and license to account must go separate and may not be connected - sanctions towards the account may not influence the license of product s. I never understood why anyone would spend money for a game where they have to login and ask Valve's permission every time they would like to play it.
When I spend money to "buy" a game it should be mine. When you "buy" a game associated with Valve you are essentially renting it. Unfortunately millions of players do not seem to mind having Valve monitor their every movement and are actually willing to pay Valve to invade their privacy. Apparently now, at least in the US, players will not even be able to complain. Has the gaming world really become that submissive? You don't have to be connected to the internet or to Valve after a game has been downloaded to play.
Being connected enables certain features like cloud saves, online multiplayer, and a few other small things. You can play 'Offline' without issue. I have done it with many games. I don't know why anyone would want to sue valve. Games are not harmful, though under developed brains may be affected by certain violent games. However in general games are harmless. Valve steam is a DRM. It was initially part of VAC, which got expanded.
While anti-cheats for specific online games are very often welcome by community, Valve's system turned into a watch-god from a watch dog. While you can use offline mode, Steam must be running and be updated to current version. Because it will log what you do - its basically a legit closed source trojan. I know this is off-topic but I really want to see someone that is a Christian Jewish Muslim. It would be hilarious to see them try to explain or preach about their beliefs. I mean that they combine Christianity with Judaism and Islam.
That would be something to see. Steam needs to stop before it is too late if it is not already too late. Companies do not have the ability to stop you from choosing not to buy their products or to support them. What these companies are doing is forgetting that they are not in charge and that a plane needs fuel to run. They are trying to fly a plane without the fuel that it needs.
Without fuel, a plane cannot fly and will crash. Steam needs to take a bath because their lies are stinking up the place. Steam should also take off their hood because they are doing some shady business. Do not be afraid. Go after Steam and others like it because they need the customers to buy their products in order to stay in business. It may seem like they have you where they want you, but the truth is that it is impossible for them to have the upper-hand because they need us or they will not make any money.
As the customers, we will always have them where we want them. We can tell them to fix something and threaten to leave if they do not fix it anytime we want to. They cannot tell us no. They have no leverage over us. If we follow through with our threats they will be defeated. They want you to think that you can do nothing about it. You can take the fight to them by not buying any of their further products.
They will destroy themselves. Class action lawsuits with Steam is not an issue for me because of the rarity of anything serious happening. Do you really think Valve is going to stir things up so much in this area that all subscribers will leave? Don't think so. To me the big issues with Steam are twofold: Most of them say, "released " or something like that, which means they were released to Steam in but the game was originally released in !
I like organizing my games in one place but not all of them are available through Steam. You can't have everything in one place, because this place belongs to Valve and some titles will not be available. Because of the purchase price issue. A perfect place to organize your titles would be your hard drive and the confirmations to have purchased the license for all the titles you have, should legality be questioned.
Steam is a monopoly in the games industry, they as stated in your article are now dictating to gamers how you play the games and how much you pay for them, this is in effect sapping every penny out of the addicted gamers out there, I am one of the lucky ones in that i have not bought any games from steam as observing my sons games he has purchased a lot of them do not work correctly, a lot of new games now need a steam account to play them this is outrageous as when you have completed the game you cannot sell it to help fund a new game as it has been registered and cannot be played by anyone else, a lot of youngsters out there are still painfully unaware of this and are then out of pocket when they have finished the game in effect have to throw the game away, In my view it should be if not already be illegal for any company to tell you whether or not you can sell a game if you want to, it is after all your property you have not hired or rented the game from any one.
I have to agree with your sentiment. I have despised steam since DAY 1! See, here's a lil of MY personal history with the mega giant now known as steam. What if I am on the road, or in an aircraft, or at a LAN party, or any of the other probable millions of other situations where I may be, where I may not have internets! I do realize now this is almost a non-thought, but back when HL2 first launched it was more "real".
Even today it can be very real to me, say I'm camping in the mountains - nope, sorry, can't tether from my phone there! I don't very much like that idea either, seeing as I DO tend to re-visit some of the "classics" from time to time especially at LAN parties. I'll admit this is probably not a concern for most, or most probably can't even imagine "the day Steam 'dies'".
But let me assure you, ALL good things come to an end. Okay, so re-visiting "old" games may not be high on many peoples list, but it is mine. That's not just a concern for me, but I can archive all my data and pass that down to my kids, and they can do the same and pass it to their kids and so on and so on. However, again, if SOME day steam dies, where will all these games go!?
Luckily people HAVE found out how to "no-steam" a game! I will admit, I like it better than the "official" version. Why is quite simple. I am doing! So now here I am, still "hating" not really liking steam. I do this for a few reasons. Now to read they are pulling s! Doesn't come as much of a surprise really to be honest!
I also understand many in the "intellectual property rights" software developers will exclaim how even though you "buy the game" you still do not "own the game". I have the box, manual, and disc. So I think about the only thing that would keep me content with steam is some kind of written and fully legal guarantee that whatever game s we purchase and add to our library, we can have continued access and use regardless of Steam or the steam "service".
ALL of them require you to not only have steam installed but also "open" running prior to launching the game.
And i want my playboy subscribtion to be transferred to christianitytoday It has been longer since episode 2 than it has been from half life 1 to half life 2. Steam needs to stop before it is too late if it is not already too late. Retrieved July 16, Archived from the original on April 3,
That also in turn means you NEED an internet connection. Sadly we know that will not happen either. So, for the meantime I will continue to "bootleg" just like everyone else, as a means to give the game a "test drive" before I determine whether it's worth actually purchasing. If it IS worth the purchase at least I know I will have a copy sitting in an archive somewhere that I will be able to play regardless of steam!
If I do not like it, well no biggie there, simple resolution, I do not give them my money, and I delete the "free copy"! I'm no "cracker" myself, so I'm not sure exactly how the "crack artists" "crack" steam games to run without it, but I do hope one day "they" make a steam emulator so that you can just run said steam emulator THAT would be an excellent answer to this problem if it hasn't already been done. Funny thing though about this whole thing is, from what I can even recall from my own memories from that very day I came rushing home with the HL2 in box.
I wouldn't, to this day, doubt that the main reason steam came about, was as an anti-piracy measure. Sure it's developed into this "awesome" platform for digital distribution that SO many people have come to LOVE, but I think that's what it's become because even IT fails at "copy protection". Why do I say that? Same for like movies, and netflix or hulu. People who aren't going to buy your game, simply aren't going to buy your game or any form of "media" or "intellectual property". This is also regardless of whether they "pirate" it or not too. NO, no they don't!
Secondly here's your full circle catch So they resort to "piracy". Now I know there are still some people like me who will "pirate" something first to see if they like it and, if they don't they'll delete it, or if they do, they'll "pay for it". Let me ask you, which is easier?
Like some kind of assurance THEY can't change their mind about something or have a huge system failure of their own that inhibits me from playing my own games. I would not pay it, that's for sure! That has also been a concern of mine since day one of steam "coming out". Since they're not - I'd tread ahead with heavy caution! No way! It doesn't matter that they may never do any of these things, or anything along those lines. They should NOT hold that kind of power. To literally be able to steal millions if not billions if not trillions of dollars accrued over time by one fell swoop!
We'd be out that money with no game to play to show for it, and they would still have FAT pockets! Me, no thank you. I'd MUCH rather buy that game in the box at a store one that does NOT require steam , or even "pirate" my copy, at least I know god forbid they ever DID chose to do any of those things or their time just 'naturally' comes to an end I'll still have a game to play! There is a Steam emulator right at this very moment. It does exactly as you describe it; it acts like the hideously horrendous terrible program Steam, and fools the games into running without it. And it even allows you LAN play!
And you don't need two accounts owning the same damned game to play it. Yeah, but it's crap. It only supposedly runs cracked games on steam. This is strange. TPB is also distributing and supporting malware. I had once recieved a legit copy of No one lives forever 2 from the convention.
I got one from "confirmed uploader" and my KAV reported installer to be infected with a root kit. After I explained everything on TBP forum including the logs, the last response was "we decided to take no action" and locked the topic. It all comes down to trust. I myself believe that they are a company that wants to expand the gaming community by giving customers an excellent service and allowing indie developers to grow so in my mind right now they have no intention on screwing anyone over and only making sure they don't somehow get screwed over by keeping an updated terms and service.
Only problem with steam I have is that it decides it needs to reinstall directx everytime I want to play a game. Also not all my games even launch. There's a reason it does that, Jacky. DirectX is or was updated almost on a monthly basis; when Steam re-installs DirectX, it installs the version that was "current" at the time the game was released, to try to make sure the game will run. Thats BS, because some play Windows games not on Windows. Such forced installation method is awkward.
This is also not how DX is designed. DX is COM-based. It drops libraries incrementally and registers their new GUIDs. When application is launched, unless desired, the latest GUID is picked. Old versions are just not called. I bought the CD version of HalfLife 2 a long time ago. I love the game but sometimes it sits dormant. I've rebuilt computers, changed email address etc.. Try to reactivate your Steam account after you've cancelled the email that it was tied to.
There is no number and support is a long process of emails until they get around to your problem. I've had nothing but problems on Steam. Give me a box with CD's and a CD key any day of the week. I don't need the Steam social or constant Store environment. This is why I tied my Steam account to an email address that I'm never going to change. That is to say, instead of tying it to an email account on my ISP's server, I tied it to a gmail account.
You can easily allow multiple computers to access the same Steam account via the SafeGuard system you just have to make sure the email account that is associated with your Steam account is correct, because it will send a verification email when you try to connect from the new computer ; and you can change your account's email address through the preferences. It's not as huge a problem as you make it out to be.
I also am done buying games from Steam. Does Valve give a damn? Not in the slightest. Does their joke of a customer "support" system offer even ONE viable solution to the issue? Did I ever even get the game in question? This company has turned into a total joke.
Will never buy another game from them again as long as I live, and I will actively be going out of my way to convince others of the same. Well, i've used steam and all of my games are free I'd not give steam money But using steam is better than update the game manually THAT, in fact, is one of the better features of Steam. You know that whatever version you downloaded is kept current, without having to search for and install patches manually.
With Steam, you just tell it not to install that particular DLC. Steam is the reason piracy isn't really a problem for PC gaming. Affordable prices and ease of access mean piracy is just "not worth the effort. With Steam, piracy will just go up. Piracy is nothing else, but sharing digital data. Steam is data, license and DRM.
Do a bit of research before you post stupid comment than look in the mirror and you'll see retard. What if a person that bought the game had a laptop which I do that was deliberately built to NOT have an internet connection. I'm a writer and I do not like having my writings subjected to the possibility of being hacked or affected by viruses or worms. I have other computers I use for that.
I also sometimes have installed games on that computer from CDs and had I tried to install Steams Skyrim Legendary Edition it would not have worked. What I find particularly vile about this is that apparently folks that buy the game for a console such as X Box don't have to have the Steam internet connection but PC users do. It is just wrong. So, they don't get any of my business. If you bought it I've never purchased a game through Steam. My kids bought me a birthday present a year ago, Skyrim the Legendary Edition. I've played scores of games and have a pretty good library of them, including Oblivion.
I absolutely LOVE those guys. I was unpleasantly surprised and angry that Skyrim, which I intended to play off-line, HAD to be linked to an on-line account. What I don't like about it is that when steam goes down, my game goes down too even though my game is entirely loaded on my computer. Having said that I do think Steam is phenomena that will fade away because there are a lot of avid gamers such as the author of the above article who do not like being tied to some on-line company that can just shut them off from games they purchased.
I also do not think Steam can avoid the biggest obstacle to their doing that. It amounts to taking peoples' money to BUY games that they can lose at the stroke of a key back at Steam. It amounts to theft. It would be like going down to your local GMC dealer, buying a car and paying cash for it but the keys for driving it are kept at the dealership which retains the power to never let you have the keys if you don't agree to their terms for allowing you to use the car.
All this will do is lead to more and more folks using piracy cracking codes to break the Steam connection. Steam, no matter how strong they may seem to be now, will fade away. I, for one, won't be buying any of their games. Simple there is a law that prevent's a force of change of terms with anyone if the one being forced to change disagrees or does not wish to change terms they do not have to. Is it a mobile phone and tablet crap thing? Must be, it's so ugly. Steam stole my account, I tried the new watch a third party play feature and found that my old account was deleted.
When I tried to play it, Steam said I needed permission from the account they deleted. There "support" is send in a complaint to be deletedno person anywhere in sight. Fraud, real theft and Identity theft all at the same time. Ok, I read the article and read the comments. The favorite one that I have read and that people are so WRONG about is the one that, they bought the game and that it is theirs to do with as they please You buy the right to play the software, but you don't actually by the software. Its just like music, you buy the CD, and while that gives you right to do what you want to the CD, like scratch it and stomp on it, buying it does not give you right to copy the music and distribute it like you see fit So that is where that argument goes out the window..
With Steam you are forgoing the physical copy and buying the right to use the software.. I think Matt Smith is really smoking crack for the most part Companies change the TOS all the time Steam is doing nothing wrong Also they have many games that you cannot buy anymore or cannot find anywhere except on The way your present it is as if it is a bad thing that they sell the software because you don't like the fact that you don't buy the physical games but only the licenses to those games..
So go back to the rock you attempted to climb out of You may not agree with some things Steam does I don't think so as there is Impluse and Gamestops online service as well as Direct 2 Drive If you read their initial agreements you will find that they are similar to Steams. It is amazing what people think they know and what they believe, and what reality is Its basically a way for them to CYA and its not a bad one if you really think about it My legal scholar friend said the reason the Cell companies added it, was to stop all the frivolus suits being filed under Class Action for distracted driving, cell phone cancer and so on So Matt, go back under the hole you crawled out, and sue and or not buy software from Steam, but you will see that you won't be able to buy as many games as you are used to, as many are in print much shorter than movies and don't stay in print when they are gone I bet you are younger than 40 and probably don't remember what life was like..
I smell a special law coming, just like for rockfeller. I mean, infinite profit from zero expense with the artist getting nearly nothing is unreasonable. Having read Ryan's bloviating screed, even though my comments are a year behind his and I doubt he'll ever read them, I find myself moved to comment on his lack of logic. I am NOT just renting the right to listen to that music. I buy a microwave over and plop it on my counter it is MINE and the company that produced doesn't have the right to enter my home and take it away from me because I decide I don't like their policy changes. If I buy a video game I am NOT just buying a license to play the game that some company can just take away from me at its whim.
Well, what if my computer didn't have an on-line link? That means we bought and paid for a game I can't play? No company, EVER, should have the power to take away games you bought and paid for. Your logic, Ryan, is Illogic and I think if pressed in a courtroom, Steam's Gestapo tactics would be criminal and amount to theft. Imagine buying and paying for a car with cash and not being able to drive it because the dealership keeps the keys. You have to call up the dealership and one of their employees drives to your house when you want to drive YOUR car.
And then, when you climb into the car to drive it, the employee climbs in too because he HAS to make sure you don't do anything with the car that violates your agreements for use of the car. So you have to drive around taking this employee of the dealership with you wherever you go when you want to use your car. At the end of the day you get to park your car in your garage where you can admire it but can't drive it while the employee of the dealership takes your car keys and he then drives back to the dealership.
What happens when all the dealerships agents are busy? Well, you don't get to drive your car, which is effectively what happened to me when I tried installing Skyrim and found that Steam's computers were down. I kept trying and it took several days to finagle things so I could even get registered.
Clearly Ryan's glowing endorsement of Steams piss poor service seems to indicate he's a loyal employee. I agree. Physical media, Digital content and delivery platform and bound account are three different things. Oh my, you so full of shit it must be coming out of your ears. And, I am 65 y. Beside, you cannot "go back under the hole" but YOU can crawl under the stone: Since i can no longer buy most of them from retailers. And now most of the games sold in stores require Steam.
I've not read the current Terms of Service until It did trouble me that a whatever you buy on steam is a license, not the actual product and b I've never actually seen a Terms of Service that so explicitly spells out that you're giving up your right to participate in a class action lawsuit. I've grown accustomed to the ease of use, cheap prices, and ease of use of steam.
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